When the Flames Go Up
When the Flames Go Up
Episode 20: "I knew I was very much falling head over heels there."
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Episode 20: "I knew I was very much falling head over heels there."

Magda has been telling Doug about That Hot Mike Zarin for three years. Now, her new husband sits down to offer his side of the story (and defend his truly atrocious grilled-cheese policy).

“There is an unusualness to being connected to my spouse’s ex, and I’m sure it’s odd to be connected to your ex’s spouse.”

Such is the wordplay of Mike Zarin, who sits down with his new wife and the guy she married way back in the 1900s to talk about how the first of what became a daily phone-call regimen began with the word “moist.”

It turns out that this romance almost never happened, given Mike’s stringent criteria for a Friend request. But reconnecting after 30 years and falling in love in your 50s has its advantages, because once you know yourself better and have processed some of life’s more formidable challenges, it’s easier to know for sure when you’ve found the real thing.

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We also talk about why it’s so much easier to relax at your second wedding, the famous Netflix-and-Chill rendezvous in Buffalo (which actually included some Netflix), and the way his executive function complements her object impermanence.

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When the Flames Go Up
When the Flames Go Up
After we divorced, we started a blog about co-parenting to learn how to work together until our kids were grown. And now that they are, and the world is so busy disrupting and disavowing what we thought we were working for, we're looking to our community to help us all keep up.